The Oldest, Meanest, Toughest Rally on the Circuit

LSPR Inquiry

Name
Tim Whitteridge
Car Number
224
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
12:05 pm
Date Sent
10/16/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
SS2 & MTC 1
Applicable Rule(s)
Bulletin 7 & MTC
Competitor Issue
MTC 1.– we asked for 20 and we’re given 23. It’s 10 plus 10, we wouldn’t have ever asked for 23…. Co driver & driver did not spot the error until last night due to the dark.

Virtual Chicane 1 on SS2

– we 100% met the minimum speed of 25mph. Our rally safe went green; can you please check the system? There should be GPS proof.

Requested Action
Penalties rescinded.

Response:

MTC1 request denied
4.1.6 Check-in Time
a) The target check-in time is the responsibility of the crews alone, who may consult
the official time at the control.

Chicane request denied
Rally safe showed non-attainment of target speed, based on GPS derived speed.

Name
Zachary Stewart
Car Number
409
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
12:05 pm
Date Sent
10/16/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
ATC 14 IN
Applicable Rule(s)
Timing Error
Competitor Issue
The written timecard ATC in time is incorrectly listed as 16:04. Which is an hour off from our arrival.
Requested Action
Please revise our ATC 14 arrival time to 17:04.

Response:
Time corrected in Rally Safe

Name
Derric Throne
Car Number
881
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
12:05 pm
Date Sent
10/16/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
ATC 14
Applicable Rule(s)
6.2
Competitor Issue
Time control marked us an hour early for Stage 14. Also a few more teams behind us.
Requested Action
Correct issue so we don’t get a time penalty for being an hour early.

Response:
Timing correction made to all competitors

Name
Robert Kassel
Car Number
305
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
12:05 pm
Date Sent
10/16/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
11
Applicable Rule(s)
Timing
Competitor Issue
We were issued a 10 second penalty for being 1 minute late. We weren’t.
Requested Action
No penalty, see our time card

Response:
No penalty issued on Rally Safe

Name
Heather Stieber
Car Number
828
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
12:05 pm
Date Sent
10/16/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
Stage 10 start
Applicable Rule(s)
Per bulletin 2021-7
Competitor Issue
The incorrect start time for stage 10 was recorded on our time card as 1119. Correct stage start was 1129 and was correct in rallysafe. The time in rallysafe was used to calculate arrival at service- Per bulletin “ rallySafe system for timing, scoring and tracking at all National Championship events. The RallySafe clocks on the units are considered the “official time” for the events. The event timing and scoring will be done using the times recorded by RallySafe.” I was unable to bring up to the official at stage because that would have put us past our start time. Entering inquiry as an FYI to the situation and requesting time in rallysafe be used. Thanks!
Requested Action
Please disregard the incorrect start time for stage 10 on time card and utilize the rallysafe timing per bulletin 2021-7 thank you for your time.

Response:
Rally Safe time was used for scoring.

Name
Michael Hordijk
Car Number
964
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
12:05 pm
Date Sent
10/16/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
ATC 10
Applicable Rule(s)
See previous
Competitor Issue
I forgot to mention on the previous inquiry, I asked the control worker to note his log, and have recording of the conversation as well.

Response:
See initial inquiry response.

Name
Michael Hordijk
Car Number
964
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
12:05 pm
Date Sent
10/16/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
ATC 10
Applicable Rule(s)
4.4.1, 5.3.4, 5.3.10
Competitor Issue
We were due at 11:34. We entered the control within the 11:33 minute. We did not hand our time card to the control worker until 11:34. The control insisted on giving us 11:33.
Requested Action
Pleas waive a a minute early penalty that would be a result of incorrectly giving us 11:33.

Response:
Request approved

 

Name
Boyd Smith
Car Number
729
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
12:05 pm
Date Sent
10/16/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
Missed 10 Rejoining after service
Applicable Rule(s)
2021-6
Competitor Issue
Bent control arm replaced
Requested Action
Rejoin with applicable time for stage 10

CoC Response:
Restarting can only occur at the beginning of a leg.
Permitted to insert for “fun run” but not be included in scores.

 

Name
Derric Throne
Car Number
881
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
10:46 am
Date Sent
10/15/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
1 ATC
Applicable Rule(s)
6.2
Competitor Issue
Stage one was transited due to spectator injury. When I walked up to time control I asked for 16:38 as my minute. I believe with all the extra traffic at the time control staff was dealing with they accidentally wrote the incorrect time down of 16:39. Unfortunately I didn’t check right away because I was trying to get out of the way of all the co-driver foot traffic and car traffic to help make the situation easier on the time control staff.
Requested Action
I’m requesting the removal of our 10 second penalty.

CoC Response:
Request denied

4.1.6 Check-in Time
a) The target check-in time is the responsibility of the crews alone, who may consult
the official time at the control.

Name
Sam Jacques
Car Number
676
Submitted By
Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
10:46 am
Date Sent
10/15/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
Saturday Morning Service
Applicable Rule(s)
NA
Competitor Issue
Car #676 is declaring its intent to rejoin the rally beginning saturday morning
Requested Action
Let us rejoin rally

RAR request granted
10/16/21
09:20

Name
Keegan Helwig
Car Number
50
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
10:46 am
Date Sent
10/15/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
SS6 – MTC2
Applicable Rule(s)
NA
Competitor Issue
Could not finish Leg 1 after SS5 due to bad clutch line.
Requested Action
RAR Saturday
Name
Jack Gillow-Wiles
Car Number
919
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
10:46 am
Date Sent
10/15/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
Ss6
Applicable Rule(s)
RCR 6.3
Competitor Issue
Issue with throttle position sensor. It’s fixed now.Also we were seeded to low and spent the day catching people.
Requested Action
Restart rally Saturday morning.We request to be seeded higher on Saturdays start order

C of C – See Saturday Start Order

Name
Eduardo Gómez
Car Number
Car #179
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
10:46 am
Date Sent
10/15/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
Stage 5
Applicable Rule(s)
Súper rally
Competitor Issue
Hi we had a issues with our center duff we broke at the start line oh stage 5 and we had to DNF , we would like to do super rally please, and if posible if you can adjust our speed factor at stage 2d we catch some cars and and at stage 3 we drop back our time to 16th overall and stage 4 we had some issues with our diff and finally at stage 5 after service broke down
But the car is ready to restar
Thank you very much
Requested Action
If can we do super rally and restart not so back on the field base on the speed factor
Thank you
CoC Response:

RAR request granted

Name
Jack Gillow-Wiles
Car Number
919
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
10:46 am
Date Sent
10/15/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
Ss6
Applicable Rule(s)
6.3 restart after retirement
Competitor Issue
We lost a throttle position sensor resulting in no gas. The crew is going to fix the issue tonight.
Requested Action
Rejoin the rally Saturday morning

CofC – request approved

Name
Sara Kate Stevens
Car Number
887
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
10:46 am
Date Sent
10/15/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
SS2 —> MTC Day 1
Applicable Rule(s)
5.7.2
Competitor Issue
A combination of mechanicals both on stage and in transit caused us to exceed maximum lateness. Codriver illness then forced our return to Service following proper procedure at SS6 FTC and assurance of SS 7 personnel that our car was present and accounted for by control personnel.
Requested Action
We wish to restart on Day 2 after mechanical retirement on Day 1 and exceeding maximum lateness (we believe)Crew will remain the same.

 

CoC Response:

RAR request granted

10/16/21

08:46

 

Name
mike Ecstein
Car Number
670
Submitted By
Co-Driver
Email
Phone
Time Sent
10:46 am
Date Sent
10/15/2021
Event
Lake Superior Performance Rally
Stage/Control
FTC2
Applicable Rule(s)
N/A
Competitor Issue
Need a new rally safe device at first service. Ours is malfunctioning stating we are off and flashes Ok/haz while on stage racing.Please bring to 670 service crew
Requested Action
Bring new rally safe device to 670 crew in time for first service